Mudah.my Marina Court Apartment Scam

Dammit Mudah, scammers again.

So I’m looking for a new place to rent and of course I’m on Mudah.my. Then I found this almost too-good-to-be-true apartment for rent in Marina Court.

And you know what they say about things that look like they’re too good to be true.

So, here’s the ad. Fantastic deal for Marina Court, which is right smack in the middle of town. Wouldn’t that be awesome? Yes, yes it would be.

Scam listing on Mudah.com.my

So I clicked on the ad, which only made me more excited, because it looks like what could be the interior of an actual Marina Court apartment.

Typical local furnishing choices, the bedrooms – in hindsight – seemed not quite of the same construction or decoration style, but hey, for RM1,500 a month, it’s awesome.

The listing on Mudah which, if you look closely is a little fishy

A little closer inspection revealed a major flaw though: no phone number.

But ok, rationalised my eager mind, perhaps the owner listed it and they might not be too savvy, or perhaps concerned for privacy, and therefore didn’t want to list their phone number.

So I clicked on the link to contact Gloria. About an hour later I got this reply:

Victor claims to be an engineer

 

Victor, who claims is a retired engineer, proceeds to outline the most wonderful deal ever. He moved to the UK a few months ago to take care of his nephew, wants a trust worthy tenant (ME!) to take over the apartment.

He only wants RM1,500 per month, just RM1,500 as a deposit and will include water, electricity, cable (never mind that you don’t get cable here, only satellite), internet, 2 parking spaces (TWO!!) and furniture which includes a washer, a dryer, a dishwasher and an oven and a stove. He’s like f’ing Santa Clause and if you know property deals here in Kota Kinabalu, you will know what an outrageously good deal this is.

But wait, there’s more! He has storage if I don’t like his stuff AND I can have pets. And an agent has the keys and signed contract ready and waiting just for me. Fan-effing-tastic!  All I have to do is just tell him a little bit more about myself. Easy peasy.

But being the suspicious person I am, I first pondered a few fishy things.

First of all, he didn’t mention poor Gloria at all. Gloria, who is obviously neither the owner nor the agent, has a funny email address. Her email address is gloria54@fastem.com – weird domain, especially for Kota Kinabalu. But nevermind.

Victor’s email address is also only just a little fishy: victordenningg2@hotmail.com.

Ok, nevermind that it’s Hotmail – older people still use it, it’s not only scammers. But it’s a bit of a weird spelling of Denningg – most commonly spelled with 1 g, but that’s also not concrete evidence of anything. That 2 at the end also sets off a few alarms, but I ignored all that in lieu of this awesome deal.

So I replied with a few personal details, most of which are already littered about on the Internet (notably this blog). It took me 20 minutes to craft the perfect email and polish it to sound just right. It’s an interview, after all, to illustrate what a model tenant I am.

No sooner did I click send, however, when this email comes back. So either Victor is clairvoyant and knew what I was typing before I sent it, or it’s an automated reply with SCAM written all over it.

Victor wants my money! Mudah Marine Court Apartment Scam

In the course of one email we progressed to a short-name basis, so Vic outlines how happy he is that I’m keen on his apartment.

From here on out it reads almost exactly like that time I got similar emails when I tried to sell my car, also on Mudah.

Read the whole email, but the short of it is Vic wants my full name and address and then he will give me the details of an iProperty.my agent (not Mudah? Running the scam in many places, are we?) to whom I can pay the money for his Marina Court apartment. A secure account of an agent, of course, where it will be kept safe until the can courier the keys.

Aaaaaand, if after 2 days of inspecting the apartment I decide it’s not for me, he will refund me the money. Yes he will, he said so right there in that email.

Vic ends off the email by thanking me for the nice cooperation. I bet he’s already rubbing his hands in anticipation of receiving a blind deposit. I replied to his email, unfortunately saying “Dammit, don’t scam people, Vic”, so perhaps he won’t reply to that.

Oh well, back to the drawing board.

5 Comments

  • HanaO

    14 June 2014 at 10:29

    Hi. I think I was the other fish of the same pond. Everything was like what you mentioned above. Same name, same email and the exact same words. I can’t help but to Google ‘IR Vic’ email address and bumped to this site. Gosh he almost got us! I reported to Mudah already and hopefully no one has to go through this too-good-to-be-true offer and having the same lucky-fantasy like we had. Thank you very much for this post. It saved our 3k. Screw scammer!

  • rocket

    31 July 2014 at 10:45

    hi i also received the exact reply from him…it really is fishy…did he thought we were born yesterday. Yes, his offer is too good to be true. Thanks for this helpful blog of yours!

  • Jeremy Fidelis

    6 August 2014 at 08:00

    Thank God I red this in time. I am having the same experience now with this guy (if he is real).

    Victor Denning
    30 May

    to me
    Hello,

    Thanks for taking the time to look at my property.
    My name is Victor, I’m a retired engineer and I’m the owner of the apartment. Is fully
    furnished with all necessary amenities (exactly like in the pics), has inbuilt wardrobe, living room with dining area, washer, dryer, dishwasher, microwave, stove/oven, fridge, etc. The apartment comes with two parking spots, a storage unit where you can deposit my
    furniture (if you don’t like it and you want use your furniture). Pets allowed. Four months ago I moved to England, London at my sons place to take care of my 2 years old nephew. I really want to find a good and responsible tenant for it, and I hope that you can send me some personal information about yourself.
    The monthly rent for the apartment is RM 1,300. I want to receive first month in advance + 1,300 refundable deposit (RM2,600 TOTAL). The monthly rent will include all utilities such as water, electricity, Internet, cable, parking etc. I left the keys and contract already signed by me at a rental company and they will handle the payment and delivery for us.
    If you want to know more about how this deal can work please get back to me ASAP and I will send you the details step by step.

    Thank you and hope to hear back from you.
    Vic

  • Priscilla

    20 September 2014 at 02:07

    You don’t blog much anymore : (

  • Ellie

    29 November 2014 at 16:54

    I also received the exact same email for empire damansara!! Thank God i found your blog!

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